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    The NYS Senate sponsored a bill to prevent this sort of thing from happening in 2011. Was passed by the Senate and died in the Assembly. The bill was revised and resubmitted to the Assembly in June 2012 where it still sits.

    http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/S2488-2011

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    It's happened before, but with everyone.
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    I see red... Literally.

    and my uncles name/address is on there and he lives in the same house as me... I'm not too happy about that...

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    No kidding.. I don't like this at all. Nevertheless, it is good to see how much red we place upon the map here in Westchester.

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    You could say it tells you which houses not to try to rob and which people not to try to rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by rebs View Post
    You could say it tells you which houses not to try to rob and which people not to try to rob
    Kinda. Problem is, it also serves as a map for burglars of what houses it is safer to rob.....
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    Who cares? You guys put your firearms inventory in your signatures, brag on how many you own and so many think it's your right to scream on the internet how you're "loud and proud".

    I agree that it is a good thing...let's all your anti-gun neighbors know they've been outed as soft targets. What I plan to do is write the papers publishing this and a bunch of appropriate legislators about how while they think they're smart on pointing this information out what they've really done is made themselves liable for showing the bad guys which citizens to target. So when these folks become victims, the ambulance chasing attorneys will also be smart enough to figure this out and use it and the fact that they neglected to act on a bill that would have prevented this as fodder to further show how irresponsible and negligent they are.
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    Good point av8r I always thought it might not be the best idea to show pictures of your entire collection online. Seems to be advertising to the powers that be in the event of a buy back or confiscation situation occurring.

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    The database was released - but now this newspaper is making it easier for people to point and click on a map to see who does/does not have a CCW. Yeah - it's public info - but it's being released in a very irresponsible manner that serves no purpose other than to exploit what happened in CT.

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    According to that map...my neighborhood is like Disney Land for criminals. Not one single CCW.
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    I see it as the opposite.

    Gives burglars a comprehensive list of houses to case. They know there are pistols in there, likely there are long guns too.

    I have no idea if these are hot items for criminals, but I imagine there is a black market for NY pistols floating around somewhere.

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    interesting how there are residents of NJ with NY pistol permits.....There are several westchester pistol permit holders with NJ addresses. Probably some sort of business permit deal but I thought NY does not allow non res.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDX View Post
    interesting how there are residents of NJ with NY pistol permits.....There are several westchester pistol permit holders with NJ addresses. Probably some sort of business permit deal but I thought NY does not allow non res.
    No where in the law does it state non-res is prohibited. But they are almost certainly for employment whether it be a business carry, armed guard or even LEO.

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    No person may carry, possess or transport a handgun in or through the state unless he has a valid New York license. New York does not issue licenses to non-residents nor does it recognize licenses issued by other states

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDX View Post
    No person may carry, possess or transport a handgun in or through the state unless he has a valid New York license. New York does not issue licenses to non-residents nor does it recognize licenses issued by other states
    Show me in the penal law where a non-resident is prohibited from obtaining a pistol license.

    Here is the eligibility requirements section:

    S 400.00Licenses to carry, possess, repair and dispose of firearms.
    1. Eligibility. No license shall be issued or renewed pursuant to thissection except by the licensing officer, and then only afterinvestigation and finding that all statements in a proper applicationfor a license are true. No license shall be issued or renewed except foran applicant (a) twenty-one years of age or older, provided, however,that where such applicant has been honorably discharged from the UnitedStates army, navy, marine corps, air force or coast guard, or thenational guard of the state of New York, no such age restriction shallapply; (b) of good moral character; (c) who has not been convictedanywhere of a felony or a serious offense; (d) who has stated whether heor she has ever suffered any mental illness or been confined to anyhospital or institution, public or private, for mental illness; (e) whohas not had a license revoked or who is not under a suspension orineligibility order issued pursuant to the provisions of section 530.14of the criminal procedure law or section eight hundred forty-two-a ofthe family court act; (f) in the county of Westchester, who hassuccessfully completed a firearms safety course and test as evidenced bya certificate of completion issued in his or her name and endorsed andaffirmed under the penalties of perjury by a duly authorized instructor,except that: (i) persons who are honorably discharged from the UnitedStates army, navy, marine corps or coast guard, or of the national guardof the state of New York, and produce evidence of official qualificationin firearms during the term of service are not required to havecompleted those hours of a firearms safety course pertaining to the safeuse, carrying, possession, maintenance and storage of a firearm; and(ii) persons who were licensed to possess a pistol or revolver prior tothe effective date of this paragraph are not required to have completeda firearms safety course and test; and (g) concerning whom no good causeexists for the denial of the license. No person shall engage in thebusiness of gunsmith or dealer in firearms unless licensed pursuant tothis section. An applicant to engage in such business shall also be acitizen of the United States, more than twenty-one years of age andmaintain a place of business in the city or county where the license isissued. For such business, if the applicant is a firm or partnership,each member thereof shall comply with all of the requirements set forthin this subdivision and if the applicant is a corporation, each officer thereof shall so comply.
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