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    Hey guys,

    Just got the barrel, upper receiver, and BCG together for my first AR build, and I'm looking for someone to check the headspace. Anyone know a gunsmith in the Syracuse area that has a set of 5.56 gauges?
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    go to brownells .com and you can purchase them ...they do not cost that much...$20 for a field gauge

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    I have a set. I will be visiting my parents near Rome this weekend. Will be arriving there on Friday sometime after 3pm and leaving for Rochester on Saturday in the afternoon. If it's not too far to drive I can meet you somewhere around there. Not sure how far Caz is from where I'll be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff View Post
    I have a set. I will be visiting my parents near Rome this weekend. Will be arriving there on Friday sometime after 3pm and leaving for Rochester on Saturday in the afternoon. If it's not too far to drive I can meet you somewhere around there. Not sure how far Caz is from where I'll be.
    Thanks for the offer, but I have a graduation I have to attend Friday night and I work on Saturdays. Rome is a good 1/2 hour or so away anyways. Maybe I'll just pick up a field gauge from Brownells like varmint suggested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stearn786 View Post
    Thanks for the offer, but I have a graduation I have to attend Friday night and I work on Saturdays. Rome is a good 1/2 hour or so away anyways. Maybe I'll just pick up a field gauge from Brownells like varmint suggested.
    Having your own around is always good. I use a set of go/no-go gauges instead of a field gauge though.
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    when I purchase gauges I buy all three...you can never have too many
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    Called the guys from Gun Works of CNY in Vernon, they said they can do it for $18. I'll probably go that route as I doubt I'll need those gauges again. Hopefully i can have my new AR usable within the next week!
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    Just a heads up - with new equipment nowadays (even from various MFR's) there is generally no need to worry about headspacing. You'll find many OMG CHECK YOUR HEADSPACE threads and what not - but rarely if ever is there a problem with the AR platform.

    I'm not saying don't do it for peace of mind, just that odds are you'll be fine if you were to not check it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stearn786 View Post
    Called the guys from Gun Works of CNY in Vernon, they said they can do it for $18
    Wow, I hope that includes shipping or coffee or some kind of prize, otherwise it works out to a rate of $72 an hour, and that's pesuming they move slow when checking.

    I mean, hey, they can charge what the market will bear, but holy **** is that a lot of money for 20 seconds of 'work' using gauges which probably paid for themselves many, many years ago
    (which bears to question if they are now worn, and thus inaccuate...)

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    Whomever it ends up getting done with, make sure they use the right gauge for the right chamber.
    ie: 5.56 gauges in a 5.56 chamber, .223 in .223

    Yes, there are certain 'exchanges' that can be done between the two sets in an emergency, but for the true accuracy the proper size/type should be used, otherwise you're just getting 'meh, close enough, no one will notice'
    You know, like going by a once fired piece of brass as an indicator. If it fits likely it'll be OK, right?
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    It's very easy to do and there are plenty of videos on youtube to walk you through it. The tools are cheap.
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    +1 tmyoungjr
    I have built many AR's from kit from scratch and do not own a set of head space gages and have had no problems. Put it together and let er rip. Check the first round that goes into the chamber if it goes in and you bolt seats, shoot it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper101 View Post
    +1 tmyoungjr
    I have built many AR's from kit from scratch and do not own a set of head space gages and have had no problems. Put it together and let er rip. Check the first round that goes into the chamber if it goes in and you bolt seats, shoot it.
    This is the terrible idea. Cutting corners is never a good idea when you're talking firearms. Having a bolt imbed it self in your shoulder would not be a very fun experience.

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    Transporter, come on, there's no way he'd get the bolt embedded into his shoulder.......
    The bolt would go flying off to the side, out the rip in the ejection port side of the upper. It would be the BUFFER TUBE that gets buried in his shoulder.

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    If I had searched and not found anyone to do it, I might have gotten impatient and shot it anyway. I know that headspace issues aren't that common with AR's, but I'd rather not find out the hard way that my gun was the exception. I still can't shoot it (or put it together) because the muzzle brake isn't welded, but at least I know it won't blow the case apart when I do finally shoot it.
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    I put my AR together last year and never heard of headspacing it. I did use very common parts so that probably helped.
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