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    Quote Originally Posted by balisticspro View Post
    act the floor plate is the part that states weather it is pree ban or not lets just say u by accedent ran over ur preban mag with a car and broke everything but the floor plate u can thn put it onto another aluminum body and that mag then becomes pre ban or if u need to change the spring in one u can as long as u have th preban floor plate u are good just like i can take my ruger sr22 and switch the post ban rciver out with a prban one and th whole gun becomes pre ban bc the reciver "gun" is preban
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    Quote Originally Posted by balisticspro View Post
    yes im not saying on all mags its on floor plate but almost all that i have seen some gunshops even sell just the floor plates just so u can preban ur currnt mags just make sur ur mag shell isnt dated or marked to conflict the floor plate

    this is probably the funniest thing I've read in a while....those silly LGS's....making a killing on the uniformed (ignorant?)
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    all I got is...Wow...

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    ****. I feel my IQ dropped 10 points for each post I read that was made by "balisticspro".
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    I was new once too. I'm glad you guys put the CORRECT info out there though. I have never seen a date on a floorplate- and never seen a post an mag body with no stamp of any sort on it. So just to be clear- you can change the floorplate, spring and follower to any other make/model. Don't put preban parts on a post ban and think that you are AOKAY. Keep up the good work!
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    Quote Originally Posted by balisticspro View Post
    i flip floped it my mistake and as for gramer an spelling i am horrible so i apolligise for that guess i fell asleep in 2nd grade during that lesson lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by LDD View Post
    Don't bother.

    You won't find a part of the law that explicity states what part of the magazine is "the magazine." The best we have to go on is the magazine body because it's the largest and most substantial piece of a magazine. Unfortunately, it's also the least repairable or replaceable part.

    A preban-era floorplate will not save you if you combine it with a postban marked magazine body.

    "Rebuild" kits are more for California, because of the way their law is written and certain letters from their state AG's office: I would be extremely hesitant to attempt to justify potential violations of the NY AWB using opinions from CA AG's office (which are clearly interpretations of the CA AWB, a completely different code).

    Furthermore, since 6.8 didn't exist prior to September 13th, 1994, any magazine that is marked 6.8 is going to be a postban creation (regardless of what capacity it is). Adding a preban floorplate isn't going to change that.

    If that were the case, I have a _ _ _ _ ton of preban-era black followers I will sell to NY for $15 each . Is throwing one of these preban followers in your postban mag going to instantly turn that mag preban?
    But wasn't the parent case that the 6.8 is derived from made by remington made way before 94? Therefore because the bottom of the casing is preban you can use postban bullets in pre ban mags right? By the way I'm joking.

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    Actually the 6.8 will work out of a 5.56 mag.
    There's some follower tweaking involved and amount you can stuff in is different (by more than what straight size conversion would cause one to expect) but you can indeed get function.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tifosi View Post
    Actually the 6.8 will work out of a 5.56 mag.
    There's some follower tweaking involved and amount you can stuff in is different (by more than what straight size conversion would cause one to expect) but you can indeed get function.
    You can put 9 rounds if you get lucky so there is no point.
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    Just so that I am perfectly clear on this thread.

    Preban mags dated 94 and back can be rebuilt with new parts spring and follower and still be considered pre ban mags?

    Just want clarification. Thank You

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    Quote Originally Posted by clutch View Post
    Just so that I am perfectly clear on this thread.

    Preban mags dated 94 and back can be rebuilt with new parts spring and follower and still be considered pre ban mags?

    Just want clarification. Thank You

    as long as the mag body (not the floorplate like that guy said) is preban you can put all new springs/followers etc in them and be fine

    on another note did that guy really get banned for being wrong about something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by clutch View Post
    Just so that I am perfectly clear on this thread.

    Preban mags dated 94 and back can be rebuilt with new parts spring and follower and still be considered pre ban mags?
    The operative date is 9/13/1994.

    This comes into play with some AR mags that were dated not only by year, but by month as well (Okay, and Center). E.G. 04/94 = preban, 10/94 = postban.

    Unfortunately, this does not help you if a magazine is dated 9/94. If such a magazine did not have "Gov't/LEO only" verbiage on it, it would likely be a preban, but I've never seen a 9/94 dated magazine.

    Undated metal/aluminum AR magazines are generally assumed to be preban as well (with limited exceptions).

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    Quote Originally Posted by BUCKrub91 View Post
    as long as the mag body (not the floorplate like that guy said) is preban you can put all new springs/followers etc in them and be fine

    on another note did that guy really get banned for being wrong about something?
    He was banned months ago for something far worse than giving out wrong info on magazines.
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    Where the heck do you guys find these cops that know, or care? Thank God I live out in the sticks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    Where the heck do you guys find these cops that know, or care? Thank God I live out in the sticks.
    I'd say a good chunk of police run ins' are caused by "know it alls" calling the cops when we're at ranges. Happened to a friend of mine. Someone called the cops when he was using undated 30 round pre ban mags in his pre ban AR-15 with all the evil features. He's owned this AR since 1986. Nothing happened because he knew the officer, but they're out there.
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    it's happened a couple times in this thread. Why do people keep mentioning the date of the gun the magazine is used in?

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    Because they don't research or listen when told for the 80 jillionth time that magazines and firearms are seperate laws with nothing in common beyond one being listed ahead of the other in the penal law
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    something that's been on my mind today.. with the possibility of the ban coming back..what happens to the high cap mags produced between 94 and present?..do they now become part of the pre ban and everything after 2012 will now be outlawed? or will the pre 1994 ban high cap mags people have now become..pre pre ban mags? so we can have mags upto 1994 in certain states..but in other state all mags up to 2012 will be prebans? wow. i'm confusing myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spax.ar View Post
    something that's been on my mind today.. with the possibility of the ban coming back..what happens to the high cap mags produced between 94 and present?..do they now become part of the pre ban and everything after 2012 will now be outlawed? or will the pre 1994 ban high cap mags people have now become..pre pre ban mags? so we can have mags upto 1994 in certain states..but in other state all mags up to 2012 will be prebans? wow. i'm confusing myself.
    I'd imagine the Federal ban would allow mags before 2013, but our state ban which overrides that would remain at 1994.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meketrefe View Post
    You can put 9 rounds if you get lucky so there is no point.
    I can only put two in before the body bulges and it won't drop out. I was going to convert a preban thirty into a 5 round hunting mag until I discovered that little gem of information. Why? Just to annoy others.
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    I know a place that used to (probably out now) sell some rebuilt 30rnd usgi's - new coating, neon follower, spring, and maybe floorplate. Wonder if they were actually legal.

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    If I was to guess the new ban on the mags will be all mags greater than 10 rounds no matter the year made. No matter the state you live in. I just have that feeling they will go after round count before the guns themselves.

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