slide fire stock with magpul trigger guard
So I didn't realize when I bought the 1st gen slide fire stock that it wouldn't be compatible with the magpul trigger guard. I really don't want to take the magpul off. Has anyone out there modified the stock at all by filing or grinding away the inside of the stock to allow it to slide over the magpul trigger guard? I'm pretty damn nervous trying it on a $350 piece of plastic. Any tips would be appreciated.
Considering they MIGHT not be legal in this state (we have no definitive answer), I don't think many people have.
Don't just support PART of the constitution.
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I wouldn't mess around with those stocks at all. It is just more ammo for the anti's to make us look like a bunch of crazy "gun grabbing" radicals on MSNBC when someone gets arrested with one of these stocks.
"Man arrested with fully automatic high capacity illegal deadly assault rifle....."
molōn labe
Unfortunately you could shoot someone with a Remington 597 today and the headline would read:
"Man arrested with fully automatic high capacity illegal deadly assault rifle....."
Don't just support PART of the constitution.
Proud NRA LIFETIME non-member.
file a $350 piece of plastic or a $15 piece of plastic...hrm....
Their is nothing that says this stock is illegal... I wouldnt bother with them anyways... just like I wouldnt bother with a full auto gun even if I could have one.. unless ammo was freeOriginally Posted by Darthgamer138
Considering they MIGHT not be legal in this state (we have no definitive answer), I don't think many people have.
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Pretty much turns your semi auto AR into full auto. I couldnt imagine this being a legal mod in NY state.
Please explain how it "pretty much" turns it into full auto?
Does it fire more than one round per trigger pull? No.
For legality, does the length of pull change, making it a telescoping/collapsing stock? No, as the pistol grip and stock are molded in together.
The stock simply allows you to pull the trigger faster by moving the gun back and forward under it's own torque from recoil. Absolutely nothing on NYS law books deems this stock as illegal.
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Better have it on a pre-ban, even then who knows in this state.
My mind is the weapon, everything else is merely an accessory.
Problem is legal or not doesn't change the fact that an officer could bring up charges and leave it up to the courts to figure it out. I for one wouldn't want to be the guinea pig in the court system to test the legality of these.
From what I understand, according to the law, these are 100% legal but look how lawyers twist around something as clear as the 2nd amendment. It's all based on the judges "interpretation" of said laws. Could you appeal it and maybe overturn it? Maybe, But do you have thousands for lawyer fees? I know I don't.
Just my .02
molōn labe
There is also a part of the NY law that outlaws anything that "simulates a machine gun". That's where using this stock gets into a grey area. Technically it may be legal, but your taking a risk of being the "test case" for it going to trial if you get caught with it and arrested. It'll be up to the DA if they want to bring it to trial. It's your choice, but beware of the risk. This is the sad state of our gun laws which leave 95% of us trying to be extra careful, and scared to fully exercise our rights.
I'd love to fire a full auto myself, legally and at a range that allows it. I was jealous as heck when my Dad told me a club not far from where I grew up in MA had a full auto shoot open to the public. I told him to let me know if they do it again, but they decided to hold off a year or 2 because neighbors were complaining. Sigh.
If I ever go to Vegas though...wasting a few hundred bucks at one of those full auto rental ranges is on my bucket list.
If I could afford the ammo I'd have one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peTBG...22FUAAAAAAAHAA
LOP is the measurement from the face of the trigger to the toe of the buttstock.
The pistol grip has absolutely nothing to do with it.
Technically speaking, the slidefire does indeed effect length of pull.
Though the crank device and the on~trigger guard bump fire device are legitimate as they only release one round per pull of the trigger.
The slidefire works on the same principle.
'Simulate a machine gun' is a pretty awful way for the law to describe it, as even by appearance some items 'simulate a machine gun', even static display models, and one could even go so far as to say that heavy duty rubber bands or belts, belt loops, and front pockets on pants should be banned because they can allow for some firearms to 'simulate a machine gun'.
If there's no such thing as trolls, how do you explain all the dead unicorns?
I would say that the only difference between this and a fully auto rifle is that this doesnt have a switch. You've watched the video, right? 30 rounds in 2.4 seconds? Now, I have nothing against a full auto weapon and I would prefer to own a few; but, modifying a rifle to "act" like a full auto rifle seems like it'll get you in trouble. If the slide fire mods are legal in NY, it's because it hasnt been noticed enough yet.
I agree—I would definitely not want to be the guinnea pig on this one. Try firing that and see if it doesnt get noticed lol.
Last edited by niacin; 03-16-2012 at 07:45 PM.
30 rounds in 2.4 seconds? Good way to spend 10 bucks in 2.4 seconds.
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These are dumb no matter what gun you have or what state you live in. Learn how to operate your rifle FAST and EFFECTIVELY with out the use of junky stocks with more moving parts to fail. Or if you want to be 'tacticool' put it on and deal with the questionable legality, and parts compatibility. Full auto is NFA, not legal in any state without the proper paper work.
George
Telescoping stock.
"But it isn't...!"
"I'm the DA and I say it is!"
See the problem? Exhibit B: Look at the confusion in this thread. STILL up in the air.
I'm all for them. For (what some people often forget) FUN, but not in this state.
Don't just support PART of the constitution.
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