so about two weeks ago I go to Beikirch's and ask for FTX projectiles for a 30-30 in 160gr. and I receive exactly what I asked for, .308cal FTX projectiles 'cept for one thing?

it turns out there are TWO (2) different types of .308-160gr projectiles. The one I have goes for 308 express or 30-06 and guns like that. The projectile is actually about 1/16th inch to long for a 30-30

On top of that I checked in with the guys at Beikirch's and they tell me it could be 1 week or 8 months before they get anything from Hornady?

just keep in mind there are two different .308-160gr projectiles running around out there